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Post by cosmonauta on Apr 9, 2003 23:50:28 GMT -5
that's the problem. yellow and blue make green, you say.
and obviously what i say doesn't fit with your mind structure. "bush was elected, then bush isn't a dictator". your ratiocination is tending to over simplfy. simplistic.
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Post by SuicideSamurai on Apr 9, 2003 23:51:42 GMT -5
welcome to the new world order which is why i want out!!!
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Post by White Mosrite on Apr 9, 2003 23:59:21 GMT -5
which is why i want out!!! you want out from the nwo? good luck there is no escaping. but do you support the war? i cant remember your status
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Post by PiRo: Resident Munkie on Apr 10, 2003 0:10:21 GMT -5
anyone heard the one about the gay midget? he came out of the cabinet wanna hear two short jokes and a long joke? joke joke joooooooooooooooooooke two muffins are sitting on a stove. one muffin looks over to the other and says "man it's hot here". the other one looks over and says "holy shit, a talking muffin!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Palabras on Apr 10, 2003 4:14:40 GMT -5
All I have to say is: Please vote for anyone else on '04 besides Bush, Please.
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Post by Blitzkrieg on Apr 10, 2003 5:51:21 GMT -5
that's the problem. yellow and blue make green, you say. and obviously what i say doesn't fit with your mind structure. "bush was elected, then bush isn't a dictator". your ratiocination is tending to over simplfy. simplistic. you truly are an idiot, do you not comprehend what shes been saying? Bush does not control everything that goes on in america or the world. the whole government system of officials must vote on what to do, so it's over 200 people making this decision, not just bush. oh and obviously cnn is showing people dancing and kissing pictures of bush and being happy just for propaganda....does that make sense at all? you extreme leftists are full of it.
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Post by hypersynesthesia on Apr 10, 2003 6:12:01 GMT -5
bush is NOT a dictator. however, as far as i can see [from an outside-the-US perspective] he and the people that surround him make for a dangerous bunch of people to lead the most powerful country in the world; they think nothing of taking the law into their own hands. media censorship - all media is edited in some way. the editing that takes place is always going to be subject to some kind of bias, be it totalitarian [e.g. state-controlled tv], or more subtle, like Fox TV and its political and nepotistic links to the Bush family. that's not conspiracy theory, that's fact. i was and am against the war. but once they'd gone into iraq, it was pointless saying "raargh get the fuck outta iraq", as IF they ever would have. it looks like it's over/coming to an end now, so i guess all i can say is i'm glad it took weeks rather than months. RIP everyone who lost their lives out there, iraqi, american, british or otherwise. i think some of what i heard about the coalition forces' behaviour was appalling - still in shock about that vanload of women and children that were shot - but i accept that that doesn't account for the majority of the troops; most of them were doing their job as well as they could. i know the pro-war people here are getting really pissed off with the "look what else the US has done in the past" arguments, but look - those arguments are not gonna stop coming. everything has to be seen within context. for instance the terrorism of 9/11 was unjustifiable, but nonetheless it was in part a reaction to REAL anger about the US. i don't support extremist groups of any kind, i think they're despicable. but i'm talking about reasons, cause and effect, not moral justifications here. similarly it's all very well harping on about how evil saddam undoubtedly is, but the US FUCKING PUT HIM THERE. rid iraq of him if necessary, but the sanctimonious "U.S of A, Saviours Of The World" attitude is risible; as far as i can see, they were simply clearing up the horrible, horrible mess they themselves initiated. the US has done a lot of things to hurt a lot of people, and those things are not going to be forgotten. and if the pro-war contingent didn't feel the need to go "yah boo sucks we won we won we're right you're wrong the USA rules ha ha fucking ha fuck the liberals" all the fucking time, people might not be so quick to bring up the US's many past misdemeanors. it's this arrogant attitude, on a larger scale, that is responsible in part for the global negative feelings about the US and the sickening events that inevitably result from it. that was stupidly long and i apologise. i did try to edit it before i posted it. o o o <><... Gen
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Post by WorshipYourToaster on Apr 10, 2003 9:29:22 GMT -5
I got tired of arguing with morons, so I went to bed.
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Post by cosmonauta on Apr 10, 2003 9:32:08 GMT -5
I got tired of arguing with morons, so I went to bed.
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berimbao il sinistro
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Post by berimbao il sinistro on Apr 10, 2003 10:14:40 GMT -5
good post hyper
Im not extreme leftist, blitz. I am no idiot either Happens that here (Argentina, where we have a relatively poor coverage compared to France, Canada, UK, etc...) we see the people cheering But we also get to see a tank firing to the building where the reporter is taking the shots, and then the reporter with his head destroyed. And limbs sprayed all around, and kids with no arms or no legs, and a LOT of PEOPLE crying and damning the americans propaganda, obviously
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Post by LimitsAreLies on Apr 10, 2003 10:16:07 GMT -5
damn it..all your arguing is making the children cry..won't somebody think of the children?
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Post by hysteresis on Apr 10, 2003 11:10:51 GMT -5
can't someone just precision bomb these war threads? everyone everywhere is discussing the war, it's tiring..
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Post by klauskinski on Apr 10, 2003 11:35:30 GMT -5
As an american, I support this war simply because it's getting rid of Americans...well, people in general. Iraqi's. Americans, terrorists or innocents...all die. Yippee!!!! But before they go they can give me some money... P.s. What's said is that I don't even know if I'm being sarcastic or not...after watching everybody where I live (Southern U.S.) I can safely say, excepting my friends on the board here, of course, that everyone doesn't really do anything that great to really deserve life....especially me.
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Post by Blitzkrieg on Apr 10, 2003 14:06:02 GMT -5
good post hyper Im not extreme leftist, blitz. I am no idiot either i was talking to cosmonauta. and just to say, i support france very much, and believe that americans really stupid for trying to say france sucks and that they are ungrateful.
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Post by White Mosrite on Apr 10, 2003 18:19:16 GMT -5
hey cosmonauta; strange times are these in which we live when young and old are taught in falsehoods school. and the one man who dares to speak the truth is at once called a lunatic and fool.
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